Q: Hi.
Abe: We are.
Q: I should probably know the answer to this, but… that was good. That was fast.
What is Abraham? Is Abraham a spirit? Is it what we call in the Bible an angel? What are…?
Abe: We prefer spook.
(Laughter.)
Q: (Laughing:) Okay.
Abe: Physical human has found many labels that they use, depending on how they feel in the moment, to try and describe their interaction with nonphysical. We are Source energy, we are collective consciousness — collective consciousness’ meaning a stream. We are a consensus of many what you might call nonphysical voices. We are that which some have called angel. We are that which some have called God. We are that which some have called Inner Being. But most importantly, and we’ll use some of our favorite words again, we are focalized consciousness specifically responding to the vibration that you manage in your asking.
Q: The reason I was asking is when my mother died — and, you know, I’m a Catholic and we have the Bible and we follow it and have beliefs — but I’m just wondering, when she left this Earth and went on, I don’t know where she went. In other words, is there actually a Heaven?
Abe: The Heaven that humans have conjured sort of takes after the place that you know. And it’s logical that you can’t perceive beyond what you perceive, and so when you try to explain anything, you express it through what you are currently perceiving. And so it’s logical. And we are not wanting to try to take out of your ability to perceive in that way because much of what you perceive is an accurate thing. But we think it would be easier for you — maybe not better, but easier for you, especially in the beginning of trying to contemplate what the nonphysical is like — to try to do so from a feeling place rather than trying to make it a visual thing.
In other words, start out by saying, “What does it feel like there?” Because nonphysical really is non-place. It’s sort of like where do your radio signals reside? Are they in Houston where the transmitter is or are they in San Antonio where the receiver is? Where are the signals? And you say, well, they’re everywhere in between, and we say, well, in that sense Source energy is everywhere in between, too. And the only time that it is important to talk about where it is, is when someone has focused it, and then it’s wherever it’s focused. That’s why people have correctly translated by saying that which they are calling God — there are many different names for that — is omnipresent, meaning it is everywhere. And that’s a little unsettling — “How can something be everywhere? And really, I don’t care,” you say in your physical body, “whether it is everywhere or not as long as it’s here where I am.” And we say you are the receiver that focuses it.
So maybe the easiest way to wrap your physical thoughts around it is you could say the energy of Source or of God, or even of your mother now that is all in that pure, positive energy nonphysical stream, is like the radio transmitter that transmits everywhere, and then focus less upon the transmitter and more upon how you’ve got your tuner set, depending upon what you want to receive.
Q: So then my question is: every night I say a prayer to my mother…
Abe: Yes.
Q: …and, you know, bless her and….
Abe: Yes.
Q: Is that something that she can hear?
Abe: Yes.
Q: Oh, she can.
Abe: Yes. Oh, yes.
Q: Okay. Well, that’s a comforting thought. I didn’t know if it was just, like, out there or if she actually knows that I’m saying…
Abe: Oh, yes.
Q: …a prayer to her and my grandparents.
Abe: When you make your transition into the nonphysical, you do not lose your perception of who you are, you do not lose your sense of identity. You become clearer and surer and broader, and you then know who you are, and the whole of who you are plays a more dominant role. In other words, any insecurities or fears would not be part of the vibrational mix. But the awareness of who you have been and of those who love you and are thinking of you is very keen. Yes.
Q: Then I was just wondering if in fact there is something called a ghost? And if there is what are they?
Abe: Well, certainly there is that which is called that, is called spirit sometimes, is called ghost sometimes, or apparition. Or Casper. (Laughter.) In the same way that Esther is interpreting vibration verbally or auditorially, it is possible to interpret vibration visually. And so sometimes the person, the seer, is in a vibrational place, in close enough proximity that they are actually able to interpret the energy in a visual sense. Sometimes the energy is a projection from Source. Sometimes it is the thoughtform — in other words, as you are here in your physical body, you have to understand what a fabulous focal point you are. There’s that word focus’ again. You are a focused energy, and so as you perceive life from your vantage point, that vantage point becomes a sort of energy vortex, and as others perceive you the same thing happens. So, long after you are no longer in your physical body, the energy that surrounded you still exists, and those who care to see it and want to see it sometimes can see it.
The question that we think is the most significant question is: when someone see s a ghost, does that always mean that the nonphysical vantage point where they are now is being expressed in that apparition, and the answer to that is sometimes yes, but not always. That’s what a haunted house is: someone had a dramatic experience or an exciting experience in a place, so the energy was very powerful. People continue to activate it and keep it alive so that even those who weren’t part of that sometimes can see that. And so the easiest way for you to distinguish what is Source energy from what is a thoughtform is the intensity of it and the purity of it and the deliciousness of it. In other words, if there is Source energy associated with it, in this moment that you are participating it, it always feels delicious.
Q: Okay. Thank you. And my last question is I was just wondering about the existence of what they call Hell, if there is something like that?
Abe: Well, there is. It’s very real, and it exists in only one place that we’ve ever known, and that is Earth. (Laughter.) The after-death Hell that is so widely promoted is an extreme distortion, and it is expressed from that fearful place of wanting to control. But there is not anything like that in the nonphysical. It is a physical phenomenon.
Q: Well, that’s what I’ve always believed, thank you, that me to…
Abe: Yes.
Q: …be validated, so to speak.
Abe: But you know, anybody’s vantage point is valid. What we’ve noticed is people worry that “If I have worried about Hell all of my physical life and believed in it enough that I tried not to do the things that they said would send me there, although it got more and more confusing as different people have different ideas about how bad you can be, but…” — (laughter) — …but I walked the line, in any case, and so I’m not really sure whether I really belong there.” And what happens to people is that during all of that time of worrying and pushing against, they are diminishing their connection with Source, and that is the Hell we were referencing. The only Hell that exists is that bad feeling — and of course there are degrees of it — of personal, chosen, while not meaning to, separation from the Source that is really you.
Q: So you shouldn’t even think about it as being what it, you know….
Abe: Well, here is where we were headed with that: a person could conjure it and believe in it and use it as a means to temper or mute their own sense of joy and value, or it might even be a path of least resistance to help them do the things that they want to do anyway. In other words, we’re not saying that we think it is something that no one should ever talk about because everyone gets to create whatever they are wanting.
But the thing that we sometimes see people worry about, they will worry about there being a Hell and they will use it to diminish their experience for a very long time, but in any case once they make their transition they will find it not. Nevertheless, it’s something that they have used to distort or thwart or hamper their sense of connection. And in that sense we have to say it is real. You can create it. And so the question that often comes from our metaphysically-minded friends who understand that you are the creator of your own reality: Could a physical human believe so much in Hell that they create that for themselves in that future experience, so that when they emerge they do have a Hell experience, maybe even for a little while? And we say, not even for a little while. Because in the moment that your consciousness withdraws from the physical and you re-emerge, you literally become that Source energy that you are and idea of Hell, the absurd idea of Hell, is… really quite a jovial talking point, especially from the newcomers.
(Laughter.)
Q: Thank you very much.
— Abe — Portland, OR, 7/12/03